In the original submission, the company modelled red blood cell transfusions using a rate of 8.3%, as published in Mahtani et al. 2022. This was because it considered that the rate of transfusions in the EMBRACA trial (38.1%) was too high and did not reflect anticipated UK clinical practice. The EAG considered that the EMBRACA rates should be used because there was uncertainty in the correlation between the rate of red blood cell transfusion, dose modifications, and the efficacy of talazoparib. The clinical experts agreed with the company that 38.1% is too high. They also explained that many people in the trial had a one-off transfusion early in the trial, so they did not consider that the transfusion rate would significantly affect the treatment effect of talazoparib as noted by the EAG. The patient expert explained that, although the transfusion rate seems high, they felt it would be acceptable to people, especially since talazoparib does not require weekly hospital visits. The clinical experts noted that in practice they would manage anaemia with dose reduction first instead of red blood cell transfusion, because transfusion is associated with risks. They were confident that the difference in their approach to transfusions would not affect the clinical effectiveness of talazoparib. They also noted that people in the trial may have stayed on the reduced dose longer than what would be seen in clinical practice. The company explained that the trial's protocol required transfusion when haemoglobin fell below the threshold of 10 g/dL, later amended to 9 g/dL. It explained that 9 g/dL was closer to the NHS transfusion criteria. Talazoparib's summary of product characteristics states that treatment should be stopped if haemoglobin falls below 8 g/dL (treatment would be resumed at a lower dose when the haemoglobin value is 9 g/dL or higher). The company explained that the transfusion rate after the threshold amendment in the trial dropped to 32% from 42% (the average rate across the trial duration was 38.1%). The clinical experts commented that a value between the trial and the Mahtani study may be more appropriate. The committee agreed with the experts that the rate of red cell blood transfusions for talazoparib in the NHS is likely to be a value between the trial and the Mahtani study. But because of the uncertainties, it would also have liked to see additional information on triggers of blood transfusion from EMBRACA, and analyses exploring the relationship between dosing, dose reduction, red blood transfusion rate and the treatment effect of talazoparib, but this was not provided by the company. In its revised analyses at consultation, the company used the rate of 23.1%, a midpoint of the EMBRACA (38.1%) and Mahtani (8.3%) values, to model the rate of red blood cell transfusions. It also provided a scenario analysis with a post-amendment EMBRACA rate of 32.4%. The EAG reiterated that the treatment effect of talazoparib, patients' quality of life, and costs are all based on the trial data and linked to the rate of transfusions used in the trial, especially if these transfusions had allowed people to stay on a higher dose of talazoparib for longer. The company explained that 53.1% of people having talazoparib in EMBRACA had at least 1 dose reduction, so dose reductions were reflected in study outcomes. The Cancer Drugs Fund clinical lead noted that the Mahtani study had a short follow up so its results may not be reliable. The clinical experts noted that transfusions for breast cancer are rare. They explained that historically, transfusions were more common in the NHS. But they did not see a decrease in effectiveness of chemotherapy regimens once the current, much more restrictive, transfusion approaches were introduced. The committee agreed that the NHS transfusion rate for talazoparib will be lower than the rate in EMBRACA. But it noted that there is an uncertainty in how this lower rate would impact the treatment effect of talazoparib, patients' quality of life and dosing seen in the trial. It concluded that modelling using a value of 23.1% is appropriate for decision making, but noted uncertainty in this assumption.